Posted by: baptistthinker | September 26, 2011

The New Pro-Life Movie: 180

WARNING: Posts containing curse words, incivility, hateful rhetoric, or pretty much anything else I don’t like, from anybody(Christian or not), will be deleted.

The new 180 movie was released yesterday(although it became available on YouTube yesterday, since it was 9/26 yesterday in New Zealand and other parts of the world). Much of the response I’ve seen from fellow believers has been positive. Responses from those without the church, however, has largely been against this movie. Responses range from polite disagreement(rare) to vitriolic hatred. There is a lot of anger about this movie from the “pro-choice” camp.

One of the primary objections to this movie, is that it’s a pro-life movie. It’s assumed that Pro-Life individuals are AGAINST women’s rights, and women’s health. It’s really a nonsensical argument, as more women are pro-life than men. But that’s beside the point. The point is, that human life is precious. Mankind is created in God’s image. God breathed his own breath into man, gave us a spirit and soul. God places a lot of value on human life. The Scriptures reflect this, when they talk about life being life even in the womb. Here are just a few verses that talk about God knowing us from the womb, and about forming us in the womb.

Psa 22:10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother’s belly.
Psa 71:6 By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my mother’s bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.
Psa 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
Ecc 11:5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.
Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Isa 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Isa 49:5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Luk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.

So what we see, is God says that life begins in the womb. It doesn’t begin at birth, it begins before birth. People say that it’s just a glob of tissue, but is that all it is? Why does a pre-born baby have a beating heart? Why does it have blood? Why does it have bones, organs? Why does it look like a human? Why are those who are “pro-choice” against legislation that would require abortion doctors to show images of the baby to the mother? Have you ever looked at images of what a pre-born child looks like?

The second accusation against the 180 movie, is that it invokes “Godwin’s Law”. Godwin’s Law was a humorous observation made by a man named Mike Godwin. Basically, his law states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” In other words, the longer that you see an argument go on in an internet forum, the more likely you are to have somebody begin comparing somebody else’s beliefs to beliefs held by Nazi’s and Hitler. Now, Godwin’s Law is not a logical fallacy. While Godwin’s Law can sometimes be a from of the Reduction Ad Hitlerum fallacy(an informal logical fallacy), this is not always the case. In fact, comparing one’s beliefs to beliefs held by the Nazis or Hitler, is sometimes a very valid point. And I think that this is a case where this is a valid observation being made. Hitler and the Nazi Party essentially did not recognize Jews and non-whites as people. In fact, in Mein Kampf, Hitler states:

[T]he völkisch concept of the world recognizes that the primordial racial elements are of the greatest significance for mankind. In principle, the State is looked upon only as a means to an end and this end is the conservation of the racial characteristics of mankind. Therefore on the völkisch principle we cannot admit that one race is equal to another. By recognizing that they are different, the völkisch concept separates mankind into races of superior and inferior quality. On the basis of this recognition it feels bound in conformity with the eternal Will that dominates the universe, to postulate the victory of the better and stronger and the subordination of the inferior and weaker. And so it pays homage to the truth that the principle underlying all Nature’s operations is the aristocratic principle and it believes that this law holds good even down to the last individual organism. It selects individual values from the mass and thus operates as an organizing principle, whereas Marxism acts as a disintegrating solvent. The völkisch belief holds that humanity must have its ideals, because ideals are a necessary condition of human existence itself. But, on the other hand, it denies that an ethical ideal has the right to prevail if it endangers the existence of a race that is the standard-bearer of a higher ethical ideal. For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and negroids all ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized future for our humanity would be lost forever.

–Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Ch. 1


While it is politically incorrect to call someone “sub-human” today, notice how pre-born children are said “to not be persons”. Notice how “pro-choice” people always say that the “fetus isn’t a person until it’s born”. Why? Because just like Nazi Germany did, if you can make out people to “not be persons” in the eyes of others, you can get them to tolerate what you’re doing. If it’s not a person, it’s okay to kill it. Of course, they don’t use terms like “kill” either. Of course, they will make claims that “science has shown that personhood does not begin at conception”. However, isn’t “personhood”, more of a question of philosophy, rather than science? Science can make a determination when life begins, but not a determination of when one becomes a person. Further, what makes one a “person”? Is it age? Quality of life? Health? Location? How do we decide what is human, and what isn’t? Well for those of us who are believers, Scripture makes it evident that personhood begins in the womb. At conception. For those who think women should have the right to kill their unborn child simply because it’s unwanted, they will say that personhood does not begin until birth. It’s much easier to kill something or someone that you don’t view as human, or as being a full person. It’s how Germans and Austrians were able to both passively and actively allow Jews to be killed. It’s how whites here in America were able to stand by and both passively and actively allow slavery. But this, this is slightly different. Because the persons being killed, aren’t usually seen by people other than the doctor. So it’s easier to forget they exist. Or to pretend that they don’t.

This little documentary was fairly well-done. But it did much more than just compare the Holocaust of Jews, Homosexuals, Christians, Catholics, and Communists, to the Holocaust of Babies(which, btw, is far more horrible in terms of sheer numbers and viciousness), it presents the Gospel.
As Ray Comfort goes on through this documentary, he makes sure to present the Gospel of Jesus Christ to these people who are pro-abortion. This is the most important part of this movie, is that the Gospel is presented. And Ray Comfort, as usual, goes through the Law with the unbelievers, and presents to them their sinfulness, and the good news of what Christ has done. I strongly recommend this documentary to anybody and everybody. This issue is very important, perhaps the most important issue of our time. After watching this movie, I became convicted. Am I doing enough to help stop abortion? Am I reaching enough people? Am I doing enough to preach the Gospel, the most important deterrent to abortion? May God have mercy on us, if we stay silent.



  1. The inalienable right to life possessed by every human being is present from the moment of initial formation, and all human beings shall be entitled to the equal protection of persons under the law. Learn more at:

  2. First, I found your blog while reading Heather Joy’s blog, GrowUp.

    Secondly, I completely agree with your assessment of the typical critic of this movie. I thought the link to Hitler and Nazi Germany was completely appropriate. I would say the real reason so many hate this movie is because it strikes a painful chord in the hearts of the convicted.

    But “Reformed Southern Baptist?” I guess I’ll have to read your “about” section. I’m a Southern Baptist pastor, but I’m a “recovering legalist.”

  3. Hi Pastor Baker, thanks for dropping by. BTW-by “Reformed”, I do mean Reformed in the classic sense. I’m also a former Fundamental Baptist, so I go by ReformedFundy on Twitter for more than one reason. And yes, I agree that people get so upset is because it strikes a painful chord for them.

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